Board Members absent: Ken Gembala
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison, Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager, Bob Valois, Staff Liaison, and Tom Dykstra, Robinson Engineering.
Ms. Merkle made a motion to approve the 11-14-2022 Special Meeting Minutes. Mr. Csanyi seconded the motion. The motion carried with 2 ayes and 0 nays.
Mr. Csanyi asked Ms. Merkle if she had reviewed the information on the Storm Water Fee. Mr. Csanyi suggested pausing the discussion until next month when all of the Board members are present. Mr. Wiszowaty provided some background of the activity and steps already taken in the process of establishing the fee. He also suggested a Study Session to discuss the basics.
Mr. Valois reported that he and Robinson completed the Stormwater Quality Plan and submitted it to IDEM. They continue to work on the compliancy reports for the Town.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 15th Day of February, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Board Members absent: Vanessa Merkle
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison, Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager, Bob Valois, Staff Liaison, and Tom Dykstra, Robinson Engineering.
Mr. Gembala made a motion to approve the 01-17-2023 Regular Meeting Minutes. Mr. Csanyi seconded the motion. The motion carried with 2 ayes and 0 nays.
Discussion about a storm water atlas or GIS and possible summer internships ensued.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 15th Day of March, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison, Bob Valois, Staff Liaison, and Tom Dykstra, Robinson Engineering.
Mr. Gembala made a motion to approve the February 15, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes. Ms. Merkle seconded the motion. The motion carried with 3 ayes and 0 nays.
Mr. Gembala asked for a copy of the Rate Study that was previously conducted. Mr. Valois noted that he would email the documents to the Board.
Mr. Dykstra explained they recommended the design level increase to a ten (10) year from a five (5) year. This would increase the capacity of the storm sewers.
General engineering questions and discussions ensued. Mr. Dykstra described pipe size comparisons and benefits.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 19th Day of April, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison; Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager
Also present: Bob Valois, Staff Liaison; Jon Dykstra, Robinson Engineering; and Daniel Dalton, Cender Dalton
Mr. Gembala made a motion to approve the March 15, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes. Ms. Merkle seconded the motion. The motion carried with 3 ayes and 0 nays.
Storm water fees are implemented to cover the costs of stormwater compliance and capital improvements that have been previously identified within the Town. They used the Indiana property code classifications to identify the type of use. They recommended the fee be implemented on the County property tax bills instead of the monthly utility bill. This would allow the Town to collect nearly one hundred percent (100%) of the stormwater fee.
He explained the pro forma expenses that would go into effect once the stormwater fee is implemented. He referred to a schedule of equipment replacement costs and department shares of the equipment. He then moved to a list of the identified stormwater projects. He stated that this report is from six (6) months ago, therefore the cost estimates are subject to change due to inflation or market trends. He explained that those three (3) schedules define the expected expenses that would be built into the proposed rates. He then explained the 5-Year Capital Improvement Plan slide that addressed the 5-year average and maximum cost. Since the earliest the fee would be implemented is in 2024, the schedule would be pushed to 2024 through 2028.
Mr. Dalton discussed the four (4) Monthly User Fee Options. He reported that the number of parcels were collected from the County and separated by Property Class Code Category. The number of properties was plugged into the annual parcel fee to get to the annual total. In each of the four options, the annual total is depicted. Mr. Wiszowaty asked about unoccupied single family homes or pre-developed lots. Mr. Dalton agreed to look into that scenario. Mr. Dykstra responded that the person(s) that holds the title is responsible for the fee. He also added that even vacant land has runoff, therefore, are eligible for a fee.
Mr. Dalton referred to the last slide which is a summary of the previous slides with the four options. He pointed out the Revenues to Expenses for each of the proposed four (4) options. He explained how each option affects the ability to fund the MS4 compliance and projects in a year.
Mr. Dalton asked the Board to make a recommendation within the next several months to take to the Town Council. Mr. Wiszowaty requested a recommendation before July, in order to meet budgeting schedules. Mr. Dalton offered to revise the rate study with more recent estimates and provide it to the Board by May 1st for review at the next meeting.
Mr. Blazak asked for an explanation on the options in greater detail. Mr. Dalton stated that the expenditures displayed are at the maximum and may not necessarily mean they all need to be done. Based on the selected option, some cuts may be required, to stay within the fund limits. Mr. Dykstra added that the expenses to meet the mandates continue, which is then covered by tax income. Mr. Dalton reported that a revised study will be prepared for the next meeting.
Mr. Dykstra explained that MS4 is the acronym for Municipal Separate Storm Sewer System. There are compliance standard operating procedures which include operation and maintenance procedures, and good housekeeping, managed by Public Works, for which all staff must be trained. He mentioned other compliance related issues mandated by the State. Mr. Dykstra explained how the Town is not able to do any MS4 projects without the funding and can only patch things or advise the residents to keep areas clear.
Mr. Wiszowaty asked Mr. Dalton to create a timeline to include recommendations, public hearings, county tax schedule for the tax bill and the first tax draw. Mr. Wiszowaty asked about grants for stormwater, to which Mr. Valois responded that a fee must be in place in order to qualify for grant money.
Mr. Gembala expressed his desire to explain to the public what MS4 is why the Town would impose the fee. Mr. Blazak stated that there are penalties imposed for non-compliance. Mr. Valois explained how the Town was able to maintain compliance but would need to do more. The October meeting is recorded with a presentation on the MS4 program.
Mr. Csanyi asked how the compliance documentation is managed. Mr. Valois responded that he works with Robinson and they have some as hardcopy, electronic and other mapping software.
Mr. Dykstra asked to be on the next agenda and noted that the Town will not be able to meet the ordinance deadline of July because of all the work that still needs to go into it. He stated that the State will be updated on the status of completion. Mr. Dalton confirmed that he will create a timeline to keep everything on track.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 17th Day of May, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison; Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager
Also present: Bob Valois, Staff Liaison; Jon Dykstra, Robinson Engineering; and Daniel Dalton, Cender Dalton
Mr. Gembala made a motion to approve the April 19, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes. Ms. Merkle seconded the motion. The motion carried with 3 ayes and 0 nays.
Mr. Dalton distributed the document addressing the timeline. If approved this evening, May 17th, the recommendation would be sent to Council for review. Once it goes to Council, there would be a notice of advertisement about ten days before the June 28th Council meeting. Council would vote on it at the July 12th meeting. Upon approval, they would solicit a list of parcels from the County and prepare a file to be entered into the tax bills as a fee. If no recommendation is made this evening, it would be pushed to the June meeting, which would shift the calendar forward for all actions.
Mr. Dalton referred to the 5 year capital improvement plan prepared by the efforts made in combination of Robinson Engineering and Cender Dalton. The document breaks down the Operations, Compliance, Equipment and Project costs over the next five (5) years. Next, he referred them to the Proposed Monthly User Fee Rate Options document. The document is broken down by the number of parcels and the Property Class Code Category, calculated based on each of the four (4) options. Mr. Wiszowaty explained that the Board would have the option of selecting one from the four options, ranging from $5.00 to $10.00 for residential. He added that, based on the option the Board selects, the needs of the community may or may not be met. Mr. Dalton added that they had run some community comparisons and the options presented are similar to other communities of similar size. He then referred to the Statement of Estimated Sources and Uses of Funds document which explains the net revenue over expense, based on each option. Mr. Gembala asked how Cender Dalton came up with the increases in the options. Mr. Dalton explained that it is on percentage and the type of property. Mr. Dalton moved to the Appendix pages, information provided by Mr. Dykstra of Robinson Engineering. He explained that the Appendix provides the details that built into the summary pages already discussed. On the equipment, he clarified how the expense would be divided among the Sanitary, Water and Stormwater funds, as shared expenses. Lastly, the Schedule of Storm Water/Flood Control projects referred to the costs and Mr. Dykstra expounded on the projects listed. Mr. Csanyi asked if the numbers presented allow for additional staffing. Mr. Dykstra responded that there was some additional personnel figured in the expenses. Discussion about the staff resources continued. Mr. Gembala expressed concerns that the areas without storm sewers do not appear to be addressed in the study. Mr. Valois rationalized how the list was derived. Mr. Wiszowaty asked the Board members where their considerations on the rate fee stand. Ms. Merkle noted that she would be comfortable with Option C. Mr. Gembala stated that he would be looking at Options B or C. Mr. Csanyi expressed concerns with accepting a lower fee today, then realizing in one to three years that the income from the fee is not enough to manage the needs. He asked that they consider a rate that is comfortable and is sustainable for the long term. Mr. Dalton explained that the process to increase the rate at a later time would be a similar process as establishing it. Mr. Csanyi asked if a community sets a fee, how often are they changed. Mr. Dalton responded that the community would consider the rate changes every three to five years. Mr. Csanyi reported that he is leaning toward Option C or D. Mr. Wiszowaty stated that there appears to be a consensus on Option C and asked if the Board was ready to move forward on that recommendation. He asked Mr. Dalton to adjust the budget to account for Option C and continued to express the timeline. Mr. Valois asked if there is any possibility to build in an automatic increase. Mr. Dalton responded that he would need to verify what the options are.
Mr. Gembala made a motion to recommend to Town Council Option C as the fee rate with the option of adjustment by the Town Council if they so choose. Ms. Merkle asked Mr. Gembala to clarify what he meant about adjustment. Mr. Gembala clarified that the Town Council will need to pass the Ordinance on the rate and does not want to box them in on the one rate. Ms. Merkle seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote: Mr. Gembala – aye, Ms. Merkle – aye, Mr. Csanyi – aye.
Ms. Quasney addressed how native plants affect the storm water. For certain native plants, the pollutants act as nutrients so the plants would absorb some of the components, including some toxic substances. Planting native plants add benefits for maintaining the system. She ran through slides indicating other ways of adding materials, landscape and basins to assist with maintaining the storm water run-off. She polled the Board for ordinance direction. For the water quality requirements, they selected the minimum requirement or somewhat more. For native plants, they selected to allow options but not to encourage it.
Ms. Quasney explained that the suggestion is to keep it simple, give the developments base level of choices, to allow some options within those choices, which would create a standardization of the designs. She then reviewed a compliance worksheet while explaining the point system. Mr. Csanyi requested a copy of the presentation. Mr. Dravet confirmed that the presentation will be posted on the Town website.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 21st Day of June, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Board Members absent: Ken Gembala
Also present:; Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager; Bob Valois, Staff Liaison; Jon Dykstra, Robinson Engineering; and Daniel Dalton, Cender Dalton
Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison was absent
Ms. Merkle made a motion to approve the May 17, 2023 Regular Meeting Minutes. Mr. Csanyi seconded the motion. The motion carried with 2 ayes and 0 nays.
Ms. Merkle made a motion to approve Resolution No. 2023-06-21, a Resolution recommending the establishment of a fee for Storm Water Management and for meeting state mandates regarding the management of Storm Water with Option C. Mr. Csanyi seconded the motion. Motion carried with 2 ayes and 0 nays.
Town Manager: Mr. Wiszowaty stated that they are starting the budget process and, provided everything is adopted, they will finalize a budget for storm water management. He reported on the sewer vac truck which will be split 30 stormwater/30 water/40 sanitary and is looking into funding for the stormwater portion at this time, as water and sanitary authorized the purchase. Mr. Csanyi asked about the timeline on the truck. Mr. Wiszowaty responded that they are looking at late 2024 for delivery. Discussion on other equipment purchases continued. He added that they will look at the ARPA fund to offset some of the cost for the sewer vac truck. Housing of the equipment was discussed. Mr. Wiszowaty explained the current condition of the current sewer vac and added that it might be cheaper to rent one, if needed, as opposed to paying for any more repairs on it. Mr. Dalton asked how they would to handle the retired equipment, to which Mr. Wiszowaty responded they could put it up on the .gov site.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 19th Day of July, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Board Members absent: Vanessa Merkle
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison; Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager; Bob Valois, Staff Liaison; Jon Dykstra, Robinson Engineering; and Daniel Dalton, Cender Dalton
Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison was absent
Mr. Gembala made a motion to approve the minutes from Wednesday June 21, 2023 as posted. Mr. Csanyi seconded the motion. The motion carried with 2 ayes and 0 nays.
Mr. Wiszowaty confirmed the Proofs of Publication are in order.
Opening Remarks – Mr. Wiszowaty thanked the Board for the long, arduous task of reviewing all of the information. He thanked Cender Dalton for putting the data together and making the recommendations.
The floor was opened to Public Comment
The floor was closed to Public Comment
Mr. Wiszowaty asked to set the date for the Special Meeting on Monday, August 28th. Mr. Dalton stated that it gives him a full month to get the parcels from the County and get them on the property tax bills.
Town Manager: Mr. Wiszowaty had nothing further to report.
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 16th Day of August, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Also present: Bob Valois, Staff Liaison; Jon Dykstra, Robinson Engineering; and Daniel Dalton, Cender Dalton. Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison and Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager were absent.
Mr. Gembala made a motion to approve the minutes from Wednesday July 19, 2023 as posted. Ms. Merkle seconded the motion. The motion carried with 3 ayes and 0 nays.
Property Class Codes | Description | Monthly Fee |
100 | Agricultural/Vacant | $ 7.00 |
300 | Industry | $ 50.00 |
400 | Commercial | $ 30.00 |
500 | Residential | $ 8.00 |
600 | Munis, Charitable, Etc. | $ 7.00 |
800 | Utilities/Railroads | $ 15.00 |
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 20th Day of September, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President
Board Members absent: Ken Gembala
Also present: Bryan Blazak, Town Council Liaison; Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager; Bob Valois, Staff Liaison; Jon Dykstra, Robinson Engineering; and Daniel Dalton, Cender Dalton.
Ms. Merkle made a motion to approve the minutes as presented dated Monday, August 28, 2023. Mr. Csanyi seconded the motion. The motion carried with 2 ayes and 0 nays.
Mary Lou Vermeer, 11917 W. 107th Place – Provided comments on erosion issues at the Weston Ridge development. Discussion about the property ownership and the maintenance responsibilities continued.
Jack Elzinga, 10794 Oakridge Court – Provided comments on erosion issues in Weston Ridge. Mr. Dykstra will review the plans to determine how it was originally designed to function. Mr. Dykstra provided an overview of stormwater runoff. Mr. Dykstra also asked the attendees for any photos or videos they may have related to this issue.
Mike Bertocchi, 10857 Mathias Dr. – Provided comments on a collapsed concrete pipe and offered a suggestion to stop the erosion.
Eric Wittmer, 11998 W. 108th Place – Provided comments on runoff coming out of a drainage pipe and isn’t draining.
Mary Lou Vermeer, 11917 W. 107th Place – Provided comments on the property when it was first being developed.
Bill DeBoer, no address provided – Provided comments about how the landscape had changed since 2006.
Mr. Wiszowaty thanked the residents for the information provided and offered assistance through office staff to provide updates as the investigations begin.
Joseph Wiszowaty, Town Manager – Nothing more to report
Respectfully Submitted:
Anastasia Lowery, Recording Secretary
St. John Board of Storm Water Management
Approved This 18th Day of October, 2023:
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Robert Csanyi, Board of Storm Water Management President